Discussion: WRE and categorization of athlets

New to AP from Slovenia.

I was searching at National O web pages and I haven't found anything usseful about this issue yet. Also IOF do not have any information about this.

******************************
How National orienteering federations implemented WRE events for categorizations of athlets at National Olympic committee?
What kind of status athlets gets according to their rank at WRE list or at sinlge WRE event?
Do they get national or international status?
What is the limit to get internation status: rank or points?
Did any federation implemeted WRE formula in rules for categorizationsbased on points?
**********************************
IOF explanation
"Unfortunately I do not have any information available on how the national federations might implement the WRE formula. To my knowledge, different federations have different ways of determining the ranking of their athletes, some may use the IOF ranking, some have ranking systems of their own, or they do not have any such system at all."

I was wondering if any federation use their WRE events in this way?

Canada at the moment selects runners to a National Squad. For WC, the runners have been selected by the coach from this squad (not sure what will happen with the change in WC format). For WOC we have a trials race which is used for selection with the discretion of the national team coach.
We do have a national ranking list but it doesn't really count for anything.
WRE is not being used for anything right now

I didn't mean how to use WRE for selecting runners for big competiton by national coach but rather how to use WRE to get recognition for sport achivement from National OC or Ministry of Sport.

I suppose that each country have list of international events (WOC, WC, EC,.....) where athlets could get official regocnition of their results (what kind of result must they achieved) and be able to ask for funding by themselves or by Nationtal federation for trainning or competition for National squad members.

I thought that maybe some countries also have WRE event on this list as this is also international event under IOF. We would like to use WRE (result between 1050-1100 points) as this is the best opportunity for organizers and athlets. We just can't get official recognition at the WOC as our NOC put very high limit (1-8. place in individual WOC event).

That's way we have so big interes in WRE.

I kind of understand as how the situation is. but it's a challlenge of your federation . while I was i Romania the funding for orienteers was less and less after 1989, but the goals were the same ( top 6 at Olympic games ?? we not even at the Olympics).or top 6 at WOC, where we got closer at junior level.
you must present fair and clear what achievements the sport realized in the last *** years, how many runners ranked in top 100,200, at regional international events ... good luck and patience..tough cookie

Ha ha! Recognition for orienteering. That's a good one.

Sorry if the sarcasm is lost in translation. In North America we pretty much run for ourselves. There is no government or federation support of athletes.

Both US and Canada have a national ranking scheme based on nationally sanctioned meets (most of which are not WRE). The federations do offer nominal recognition of those who rank highly, but everybody in the O community already knows who those people are. Nobody else cares. Opinions may vary, but it appears to me that placing at national championships is a bigger deal than winding up at the top of the rankings. All but a very few are completely oblivious of the WRE rankings.

ebuckley wrote: There is no government or federation support of athletes.

Not 100% correct. Over the years numerous Yukon orienteers have received direct financial support from the Yukon Territorial Government through its High Performance Assistance Program. For 2006 Brent Langbakk received $2500; and Justine Scheck $2000.

(Besides the terrain and proximity of maps to the City, yet one more reason why Whitehorse is great for "O".)

Every one should push for recognition in his own back yard, with the best approach. it's good that Yukon ( and other provinces) could help their athletes. keep it up.

I thought that will somebody know how WRE system work in scandi countries or in SUI as if somebody use WRE for this porpuse probbably they did it.

Anyway, we put WRE on the list but only for "national status" of the athlets (places in 1/2 half at WRE event), but this means nothing for athlets and very small contribution for Federation when Sport fundation and goverment compare us with other sports and give evrybody one big/small piece of cake.

WRE is kind of World ranking as ATP and we could use in this way also for international status like other sport in our country already did it, but we must find a good solution or one example. We can't suggest that 1.place at WRE event is enough for int.status as Elite class at our WRE events is not so deep. The only way is if we use points scale. We have calculated that in last 4 year runners got for 15.place and ticket for WOC final between 1050-1100 points. I do not know how to add files, sorry.

Non Olympic sports disciplines have different and much harder conditions, so it is hard to get international status which means a lot for runners and also or federation.

Thx, anyway. I see that you deal with the same problems when it comes to recognition :) which means at the end money and development.

I could understand that Scandis don't have problems at that very bottom level like us and it is easier to think about ELITE sport, but IOF could do much more for countries like us or you with real help and information.

I do not htink very many use the world ranking for about anything.

A few Finnish atlhetes get "salareis" from the National Olympic Committee based on merit in last years competitions, i.e. for orienteers a WOC-medal is about required.

The national federation gets gevernmenatl funding based on a very complicated formula including merit, junior activities, ethics, equality, integration, etc... The merit part is also, as I understand it, based on WOC (and perhaps JWOC) -performance.

There is also, since 1982, a national ranking of all orienteers, that is used for determining elite-levels (very much an in-sport definition), starting orders, and qualifications to selection reces. The world ranking has been used to include or (exclude) foreign runners in national selections races.