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Discussion: Garmin upload from iOS devices

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Apr 11, 2013 2:47 PM # 
Gaz:
I do not own desktop or laptop computer and spend most of my time away from home on business, using my iPad to update my log. I add Garmin traces at a later date, when I am back in the office, using a PC and SportTracks, but it would be preferable to do this at the time of the activity (including elevation correction), on my iPad or iPhone.
 
I have worked out that I can upload a trace from a Garmin 610 into the Wahoo Fitness app on my iPad or iPhone, using their ANT+ key, but not sure if I can then get it into AP. I can export it to a number of other on-line logs like Garmin Connect, and I can export the GPX file to my dropbox account.
 
I could switch to a log that Wahoo supports but obviously would rather stay on AP.  Any ideas?
 
 
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Apr 11, 2013 2:56 PM # 
Ifor:
Want your iPad let you manually upload the .gpx file to AP from the browser? Fairly sure I did this on my android phone before adding direct upload support into IpBike...
Apr 11, 2013 3:10 PM # 
ken:
The Wahoo app supports some generic ways to share the data files, like by email or dropbox. I have been investigating ways to use those for importing to your log. Nothing ready to use yet though. I will also see if I can get AP added as an export option.

Not sure about iPad, but at least the iPhone browser is really restrictive about letting you do any kind of file access/upload. I think uploading in Safari is currently limited to images from your camera roll.
Apr 11, 2013 4:11 PM # 
Gaz:
Thanks to both of you. In Safari, my iPhone is restricted to images in the camera roll, and my iPad cannot do anything, but it is the original and limited to IOS5.

AP export in Wahoo sounds like a good option and obviously keen to know if anything else is developed.

I can at least view my Garmin trace using other options whilst updating AP and I could save the GPX file to dropbox to add later. Would like to use something that does elevation correction?
Apr 11, 2013 7:43 PM # 
Jagge:
You can plug old fore 205/305 (or garmin ant+ stick for more recent devices) to android phone/tablet's usb port and read the data and post to AP. Works just fine.
May 21, 2013 6:04 PM # 
walk:
Ken - Any progress on this? I now have a 310xt with the ANT and would be neat to be able to get it to talk to AP.
May 24, 2013 4:31 PM # 
Gaz:
I have now got a 610 and the Wahoo key/App, and I am uploading my trace onto my iPhone straight after I run and then exporting it to Garmin connect where I can view it and get elevation correction, before doing an AP entry. I am also exporting the corrected trace to Dropbox and adding to AP when I next have acess to a PC. It would be great though to add it straightaway.
Nov 19, 2013 1:16 PM # 
ken:
There is now support for uploading 310/610/910 data via iOS devices. It requires the wahoo ant+ dongle. (It will not work with the similar looking Garmin-branded one) If you have an iPhone 5 or iPad 4/Air, you also need a lightning to 30-pin adapter.

These instructions are long for completeness, but are easy once you get set up. Let me know if you have any trouble with them.

1. Install the free Wahoo Fitness app on your iOS device: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wahoo-fitness/id39...

2. On Attackpoint, go to Settings > Edit Profile/Preferences. Check the "enable email upload" box near the bottom of the page, and also copy the "send files to" email address shown (press and hold). Click the "Update" button at the bottom to save the change.

3. Plug in the Wahoo dongle, and launch the Wahoo app. It might ask you to create a profile, you can skip/cancel this.

4. Click "Settings+Help" > Sharing > Email Options. Under "File Export Types", you can turn off all types except FIT. Also make sure compression is "none".

5. Back out a few times to the main screen. Click "Workout History" > "Import From Garmin Watch", and follow the instructions. (You only need to do the pairing steps the first time). You'll need your 310/610/910 nearby and powered on.

6. Select the session to transfer (you can only do one at a time). Wait a bit, and then when it's done, view the session info, and click the share icon in the upper right. Choose "Email".

7. The app will create an email for you with the data files attached. Paste/type in the address you copied in step 2, and send it. After a minute or so, the session/data will be automatically added into your log. You can edit it as usual.

8. You can repeat steps 5-7 for any additional sessions.
Nov 19, 2013 11:32 PM # 
Cali Cowboy:
This is very cool. Any update on working with a site like http://www.copymysports.com/ to pull activities from Garmin Connect into AP?

Maybe there is another option. Here is my unique case:

I have a Garmin Edge 510 that syncs with my iPhone 5s via Bluetooth. The Garmin app on my iPhone can then update my Garmin Connect account with my activity. I don't care much for Garmin Connect, but that is all that the app can put the GPX file to. I can then download the GPX file from Garmin Connext and upload the file to AP, but this would be nice to do without a computer. How can I do this w/o one (all on my iPhone)? copymysports.com works sometimes to pull my Garmin Connect activities into Strava.

Thanks, Kyle
Nov 20, 2013 12:43 AM # 
Juffy:
Teehee. This page reads like "We found Garmin Connect's API, we flooded their server, Garmin got pissed, we pleaded innocence and geekery." (by the looks, they also pissed off RunKeeper...)

But more to the point, why use some strange middle-man site if the API exists to pull activities directly from GC? Ken, as we all know, is the master of the internet and I love making more work for him. ♥
Nov 20, 2013 2:29 AM # 
ken:
Yep, Garmin Connect import is coming too.
Nov 22, 2013 12:41 PM # 
Charlie:
Looks like the Wahoo Fitness App works only for iPhone and iPod touch, not for iPad. Unless I'm missing something.
Nov 22, 2013 2:08 PM # 
ken:
Both the key and the app should work with an iPad, though I haven't tried yet. I can test it later tonight. Are you trying and running into a problem? is your iPad one with a 30pin or lightning connector?

https://www.wahoofitness.com/instructions/wahoo-ke...
Nov 22, 2013 3:27 PM # 
Charlie:
OK. I figured it out. When I looked for Wahoo fitness on the iPad, it couldn't find the app, but there is an iPhone app and I was able to download it on the iPad, so it should work.
Dec 24, 2013 10:28 AM # 
Gaz:
This is brilliant ! - I have just uploaded yesterday's run into the Wahoo App on my iPhone and then exported it from there to Attackpoint - just what I need since I only have access to a PC when in the office.
Mar 5, 2014 10:08 PM # 
Charlie:
Here is an update to the fine instructions Ken posted Nov 19 in this thread.

When you get to step 3, if you do create a profile, use the special attackpoint email address from step 2 as the email address for the profile. Then when you get to step 7, the app will automatically select that email address to send the file to AP. That way you don't have to remember and re-type the address each time.
Mar 5, 2014 10:24 PM # 
cmorse:
And if, like me, you still don't have a Garmin, the wahoo app works just fine by itself too. Hit 'stop' to finish workout, hit 'share', hit 'send'.... Done, posted to attackpoint before you even catch your breath...
Mar 5, 2014 10:26 PM # 
cmorse:
and using the iPhone itself lets me stream Pandora while I suffer through the road miles....
Mar 29, 2014 4:50 PM # 
walk:
Wahoo has been updated and no longer seems to work with my 310xt. The entire interface has changed and for the worse. It did download the time but not the track. And history has been lost. Help!
Mar 31, 2014 11:33 PM # 
wilsmith:
I think with Wahoo Fitness 4.0.1 (just released) they claim to have fixed downloads from Garmin watches.
Apr 1, 2014 2:15 PM # 
walk:
Yes - seems to work but interface is more awkward. This does solve the pairing issue I have had though. Use to have pair each time before.
Apr 1, 2014 3:01 PM # 
Charlie:
Glad I saw this, so I could download the update. Sometimes folks can't leave well enough alone.

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