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Discussion: name withheld

in: Orienteering; General

Jul 15, 2009 11:44 AM # 
tinytoes:
I was recently browsing through the results of a rogain held in our state to see how some friends and acquaintances had done. There were several results where "name withheld" appeared, and curiously within a team where some team members were identified. I'm not prying or judging but I'm wondering if someone can enlighten me as to why?
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Jul 15, 2009 11:48 AM # 
chitownclark:
Team dissension?
Jul 15, 2009 11:57 AM # 
tinytoes:
Name withheld appeared in both well performed and not so well performed teams (as far as I could tell).
Jul 15, 2009 12:38 PM # 
grilla:
I have had people request their names be altered in results listed on webpages due to the professions they work in - like needing to have an unlisted telephone number.
Jul 15, 2009 12:55 PM # 
RLShadow:
Hmmm ... so some people in certain professions would find it somehow embarrassing for people to find that they participate in rogaines??? Seems odd, but I'm guessing there's some angle I'm not understanding.
Jul 15, 2009 12:56 PM # 
ebuckley:
Interesting. I wonder how sponsors would feel about that. In most of the sports I compete in, part of the waiver (yes, I actually read those things) says that I allow the race organization and sponsors to use my name and image without compensation in conjunction with any promotion and/or reporting of the event. That's how I ended up on the poster for the Show Me State Shape Up Challenge, which was basically a weight loss program culminating in participation in the Missouri State Games. Funny thing was, I'm sure they had no idea that I was once 60 pounds heavier!
Jul 15, 2009 4:31 PM # 
sreed2:
Maybe they were using their sick days and didn't want their boss to find out.
Jul 15, 2009 7:43 PM # 
jeffw:
I think they were in the witness protection program.
Jul 15, 2009 8:48 PM # 
Wildsky:
There are people that because of personal circumstances want to minimize their exposure on the web. For example an women with an ex or an unfriendly stalker. I wouldn't be surprised if AP didn't have some aliases being used.

If you google a person who has competed in an event where the results are posted on the web, their name will invariably come up. I have had people in these circumstances ask me to withhold their names in events I have produced.
Jul 15, 2009 9:40 PM # 
Cristina:
The amazing thing to me is that there are people who successfully keep their name off of the web. It seems like it would be very tough to do if you regularly participate in activities with online results. Once it's up there it doesn't really ever go away.
Jul 16, 2009 2:33 AM # 
blairtrewin:
On the other side of the coin, having the first 150 hits on your name on Google linking to orienteering results can come in useful if, for example, a certain well-known (at least to Australians) media identity (or his researcher) is using it to try to find dirt on your non-orienteering activities...

I've always thought that if you're concerned about hits coming up on Google, a deliberate mis-spelling is an elegant solution.

As for the legal situation in Australia, there are no legal barriers to publishing results - the Privacy Act does not apply to organisations with a turnover of less than $2M (except with respect to things like medical records), and in any case there is a clause which says something to the effect that it doesn't apply to material that an individual could have reasonably anticipated would be published. Obviously different countries will have different laws here. (As an aside, there is also nothing in the Privacy Act or anywhere else which requires a parent's permission to publish a photo of a child taken in a public place, any more than there is any requirement to get an adult's permission to publish a photo of themselves taken in a public place - the paparazzi would be out of business if it were otherwise....).
Jul 16, 2009 3:47 AM # 
LOST_Richard:
Having a reasonably common name keeps you down the list - when I type my name into google without any other key words I make the bottom of the first page for being involved in mapping Boyagarring in 1983! Add Orienteering or Rogaining and I am in every link
Jul 16, 2009 3:50 AM # 
chitownclark:
Speaking of privacy, I liked the way Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor today defused several touchy issues....

.....During his second chance to question Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor, Sen. Orrin Hatch prompted her Wednesday to outline how she believes the "right to privacy" emerged to allow abortion....But Sotomayor would not say, despite two days of trying by many senators, what she personally believes about abortion or previous rulings on it and the right to privacy....
Jul 16, 2009 5:57 AM # 
Juffy:
Epic segue there, Clark. :)
Jul 16, 2009 6:24 AM # 
leepback:
Maybe we should have all our results published using our AP names, trouble is I use it everywhere.

I was once going to write a condescending comment on some guys Vimeo page. The page featured a video of a group of guys shooting the crap out of fridges and washing machines etc with seriously big automatic weapons. I'd typed in a sarcastic "I know where to come to if I'm ever attacked by whitegoods" in the comments page and was about to hit "post" but thought it over.

I decided that perhaps they might have some pals in OZ or even take a holiday here and that I'd be very findable to anyone with half a brain using a google search and very simple detective work. Even though I didn't credit them with much intelligence I still deleted it as they were crazy as hell and obviously had a passion for shooting things. Yes I'm a coward.
Jul 16, 2009 6:33 AM # 
leepback:
maybe they're on compo
Jul 16, 2009 6:48 AM # 
TheInvisibleLog:
You could always hide in a fridge.
Jul 16, 2009 12:48 PM # 
ebuckley:
That would make it tough to keep the G-value down.
Jul 17, 2009 4:15 AM # 
slow-twitch:
It's ok leepback, they don't sound the type to detect sarcasm and would have taken it as an honour that there was someone out there who would come straight to them to be rescued in an attacking whiteware crisis
Jul 17, 2009 5:11 AM # 
leepback:
Off topic.....but here's the link to those guy's shooting up objects. Charlton Heston would definately approve if he were still alive.

http://vimeo.com/2060735

It's titled "Shooters Party" and I reckon they have some brethren in the same named political party over here.

Watch thru until at least "Rifles and Such".

Don't anybody mention my name!!!!

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