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Discussion: Inter-Regional Challenge

in: Buffalo Orienteering Festival (May 16–17, 2009 - Buffalo, NY)

May 14, 2009 12:56 PM # 
gordhun:
A little while ago I suggested setting up an unofficial Inter-Regional Challenge at the Buffalo Orienteering Festival. My thinking was that the Buffalo terrain is unknown to most of us and it is also almost equidistant from the major O regions ? New England, metro NYC, and the mid-Atlantic while second areas such as the Great Lakes and central Canada, by being closer, might have a little advantage to help overcome their quantity/quality disadvantages.
The idea was to award points 10-8-6-4-2-1 to the first six finishers in each event in each ?A? class with no region able to count more than two finishers in any class.
There wasn?t much uptake so the idea has been sitting on a back burner.
Here is what the scoring would have been at the West Point Meet Long Course if there had been an Inter- Regional Competition.
Region F Classes M Classes Total
New England 73 86 159
Mid-Atlantic 49 102 151
Metro NYC 48 83 131
West 43 20 63
Great Lakes 22 28 60
Canada 20 37 57
Rest of World 20 28 48
South 16 2 18
(Sorry but AP does not recognize my careful formatting)
Notes: WCOC was arbitrarily placed in metro NYC, Texas in the South, EMPO in Albany was pushed west to the Great Lakes area. I didn?t know where Hana is but I assumed it was not in Canada or the States.

Just for my amusement (and hopefully yours) I am going to do a similar tally for the Buffalo results. If there are any strong feelings about where your club should be aligned regionally please let me know.
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May 14, 2009 1:35 PM # 
rtculberg:
Good guess, Hana is in the Czech Republic.
May 14, 2009 1:56 PM # 
dcady:
Bless you Gord.
May 14, 2009 7:05 PM # 
walk:
WCOC certainly rejects any association with Metro NYC and is torn whether to be part of "Best of World" or New England. Most likely we would be thrown into the latter - unless better offers are available.
May 14, 2009 9:52 PM # 
JanetT:
I think New York state is considered to be mid-Atlantic but geographically it's closer to New England than the Great Lakes (Albany area, about 25 miles from Massachusetts), though New England doesn't like to include us. :-)
May 14, 2009 11:24 PM # 
gordhun:
I think any club that has meets reachable by commuter train from Grand Central must be considered part of metro NYC. But I'm open to further arguments.
Janet: I thought it would be the other way around and NY would reject association with NE.
If WCOC jumps to NE then I may have to gerrymander an eastern NY&NJ region.
Wow this gets complicated when one starts consulting with others!!!
I have one other thought brewing and that is to add more scoring for the F 21 E and M 21 E. The top ten places would score 20-16-14-12-10-8-6-4-2-1.
May 15, 2009 1:35 AM # 
Hammer:
Am I allowed to run for southern Ontario or by living within 80km of Buffalo must I race for BFLO?

Oh this isn't the NHL so I'll run for southern Ontario.
May 15, 2009 1:37 AM # 
dlevine:
If it's the NFL, aren't Buffalo and Toronto the same?
May 15, 2009 3:16 AM # 
JanetT:
Ah... I was talking about EMPO being close to New England when I said New York. I'm so confused... I still think EMPO should be with New England or Mid-Atlantic, anyway.

I suppose you can add us to the Great Lakes clubs if they need our numbers, but there won't be many EMPO-ers at the Buffalo meet.

In any case, kudos for taking on this statistical challenge. :-)
May 15, 2009 3:30 AM # 
walk:
Janet, you can join us in Best of the Rest.
May 15, 2009 3:25 PM # 
Hammer:
>If it's the NFL, aren't Buffalo and Toronto the same?

Yes they are... but not Hamilton (NHL = Never Hamilton League).

Really looking forward to the orienteering weekend and I'm hopeful the racers and organizers have lots of fun. We are very fortunate to have BFLO hosting this event so close to Ontario's Golden Horseshoe.

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