Discussion: Orienteering "Grand Slam"

Thinking about MC at the ski-O WOC made me wonder - has anyone done a 'grand slam' - say - competed at a WOC; ski-O WOC; JWOC; and Ski-O JWOC?
Off the top of my head, MC and Sharon Crawford have both done WOC and Ski-O WOC. Pippa has done JWOC; WOC and Ski-O WOC (also WC). Others.....?

Wouldn't you have to do the MTB-O Championships too? And the junior version, or isn't there one?

I think a nice "Triple Crown" would be the WOC, plus MTB and Ski WOCs. Gives old folks something to shoot for. ;-)

I think one of the Kiwis, maybe Greg Barbour, was possibly just crazy enough to have done the WOC, Ski-WOC, and MTB-WOC. Not sure of this, though. But someone from that neck of the woods would know.

I don't think he'd have done the junior versions of all those, however.

I like the Triple Crown idea. Of course the Rogainers might want the WRC to be included.

Isn't it necessary to win the events before we pronounce whatever permutation we come up with to be a Grand Slam?

I think I remember hearing about one of the Aussie guys living in Sweden might have come close.

Some of the Czechs have done the natural Ski-O and MTB-O combo.

Isn't it necessary to win the events before we pronounce whatever permutation we come up with to be a Grand Slam?

Right, otherwise it's just a long fly ball with the bases loaded. And two outs.

Yes Greg Barbour has done WOC, Ski-WOC and MTB-WOC, too old to do any of the juniors. Chris Forne is definitely crazy enough, give him another year in Norway and he will no doubt look at Ski-WOC, he has done the other 2. Also both Barbour and Forne have been World Rogaining Champions.

Wil, pretty sure you're right about Greg B, altho I suspect he only did the ski-o because he was living in the appropriate part of russia that year. Was never a NZ junior orienteer, and to the best of my knowledge never a junior orienteer full stop. And if it is going to be a quadruple crown, he's done (won?) the rogaine worlds as well.... Michal Glowacki (another kiwi) might have done MTBO and Ski O worlds plus JWOC and world cups on foot but I'm only sure of 50% of that

Yip Michal has also done the WOC, MTBO and Ski-O as well, plus JWOC

because he was living in the appropriate part of russia that year

As in, a few kilometers from the map.

There's also the JWOC, WOC and WMOC combination. As far as I know Wolfgang Waldhausl (Austria) and myself were the first to do this (it only became possible in 2005 when the 20-year-olds from the first JWOC turned 35), but there have presumably been others since.

Greg B was an Australian junior. Originally a member of the Garingal club in Sydney, he competed in the Australian Relays in 1977 in M15-18, and he was Australian Champion in M16 in 1978.

Greg also won the Australian Championships M21E class in 1993 at Evans Crown.

Christina has good point - participating in all of these is generally more to do with having enough cash and holidays, and competing for a country that will let you just show up for one or more of the o-varieties. What about those who've won medals at all, or at least qualified for finals.
Alain Berger (sui) has won gold medals in real-o and mtbo (not sure about ski-o). Michi Gigon (aut) has a haul of mtbo gold, and qualified for a few real-o woc finals. (again, don't know about ski-o)
are there any finns who've done all 3? they would be the strongest all round for all o-versions.

- Viktor Korchagin has won both mtbo and ski-o.
- Liisa Anttila has won WOC relay (Tampere 2001) and ski-o gold several times.

I would have though 'grand slam' meant winning WOC sprint, middle and long in the one carnival. Real-O or other but not mixed.

should someone give Sharon a mountain bike?
;-)

Rogaining is a different sport from orienteering, and you don't have to qualify or be selected to compete in the WRC, so I don't think it can be part of an orienteering Grand Slam, however that is defined. (I do have a WRC bronze medal though.)

Alain Berger (sui) has won gold medals in real-o and mtbo (not sure about ski-o)

Real-o. I haven't heard that before. I think I greatly prefer this term over "foot-o".

Arja Hannus won gold medals in both foot (indiv-87 and relays ) and ski-o ( relays ) at WOC..maybe like 9 in total (some silver and bronze there too ).she won the overal WC in early 90 in ski-o

The pure form of the sport is O, or Orienteering, not foot-Orienteering, or real-Orienteering, but Orienteering, then there is Ski-O, MTB-O, and for some of us, when we try to preform the sport, were its not meant to be, its Pseud-O

Johan Runesson (SWE) earned golds in Middle, Long, Relay, and a silver in sprint in JWOC 08

Liisa Anttila has won jwoc o (93), jwoc ski-o (94), woc ski-o (98) and woc (relay 01). Someone should get her a bike.

in rugby Union in order to have completed a grand slam you have to have beaten the 4 home unions of Great Britain(England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland). You dont achieve a grand slam by just playing the 4 teams.

So winning events should be included in the criteria of a grand slam of "O".

Of course the Rogainers might want the WRC to be included.

There's always Trail-O.

I have kind of done a donut grand slam having eaten at a Dunkin' Donuts, a Krispy Kreme, and a Tim Hortons. It is an O type of thing.

Ah but do you just have to eat there, or have conquered the donuts? (Don't worry, I have no idea what that could mean either)

I have kind of done a donut grand slam having eaten at a Dunkin' Donuts, a Krispy Kreme, and a Tim Hortons.

Is that all in the same day? (or same lunch hour...)

I have kind of done a donut grand slam having eaten at a Dunkin' Donuts, a Krispy Kreme, and a Tim Hortons.

That's only the Triple Crown. You need to add another for the Grand Slam. Winchell's?

is there a grand slam of coffee shops then? I'm sure the canberra APers wouldbe able to make one up.

Ruslan Gritsan was 4 times world champion in 2005. He won middle/relay in Ski-O WOC and long/middle in MTB-O WOC. An incredible result, because he has serious problems with his vision.

>>>Real-o. I haven't heard that before. I think I greatly prefer this term over "foot-o".

I'm with you JJ. I hate the term "foot-o". I think Wadd's idea to call it "orienteering running" was even better. Kind of fits with other sports like "trail running", "mountain running", "cross-country running". Or maybe flip it the other way "running orienteering"

"Orienteering running" sounds a bit weird, what with two "-ings". "Navigation running" also sounds weird, but is perhaps less so. Plus, it can be shortened to 'nav running'.

Orienteering is already defined as running race while navigating, so "running while navigating running" sounds weird.

Just drop it guys, nothing's wrong with "Orienteering", Ski-Orienteering, MTB-Orienteering. ;)

Orienteering will continue to have a marketing problems in the US unless it suddenly challenges soccer as the world's favorite sport. I see nothing wrong with trying to come up with something more descriptive and ear catching. A name that makes it actually sound like a sport, rather than a useless hobby.

We have a series locally we call "Navsport" Has a bit of a trendy feel to it. Must admit it takes a long winded explanation of what Orienteering is to any novices. At least Navsport implies a sort of race feel.