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Discussion: Stats page explanation?

in: Orienteering; General

Apr 25, 2022 1:49 PM # 
McZwick:
I'm new to the sport and don't fully understand the results stats. Is there a Primer somewhere on that? For example, why are some splits highlighted in red?
Thanks!
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Apr 25, 2022 1:56 PM # 
bhall:
The split boxes that are highlighted in red are the leg splits that Attackpoint has calculated to be a mistake. If you hover over them, you can see how much time the calculation suggests was lost. When the top number in the box is the orange-red color then that person had the fastest time for that control. The blue numbers mean that runner had the fastest time on the course at that control. Does that make sense? Anything else that is confusing?
Apr 25, 2022 9:07 PM # 
tRicky:
What are the brown lines on a map? There are so many that I can just ignore them right?
Apr 25, 2022 9:36 PM # 
walk:
Those are suggested routes. The really windy ones are for mtb.
Apr 25, 2022 11:13 PM # 
Aragorn:
The brown lines are the brown course. It is ideal for elderly competitors because following one generates no climb.
Apr 25, 2022 11:54 PM # 
tRicky:
Okay thanks, that makes sense. If I'm doing a white course can I cross other colours or should I try to stick to just the white areas?
Apr 25, 2022 11:57 PM # 
tRicky:
McZwick, the following might also help:

lost - how much time you spent on course where you didn't know where you were
spd - how fast you were going relative to other runners on your course (this is impacted by lost)
pts - how awesome you are; US competitors seem to have a 1.5x advantage over the rest of the world with this stat
Apr 26, 2022 3:34 AM # 
Danny Riley:
Well actually now it’s the Australians with the points advantage
Apr 26, 2022 3:39 AM # 
TheInvisibleLog:
Surely tRicky doesn't get points for his absurdities?
Apr 26, 2022 6:01 AM # 
blairtrewin:
The 2009 Australian Sprint Championships area during the September 2010 flood would be ideal for a blue course.

(I've probably observed before that, although we no longer use colour codes for courses in Australia, when we did, a blue course had exactly the opposite meaning to what it had in the US).
Apr 26, 2022 7:49 AM # 
tRicky:
So it made people happy?
Apr 26, 2022 1:50 PM # 
Mr Wonderful:
Speed being affected by lost is perhaps confusing? Speed is your capability or potential if you didn't screw up. You can finish several places behind someone and half an hour later, and end up with the same speed rating, as long as the time gap is covered by mistakes and not running speed.

This happened on Sunday here for example, 3 and 6th roughly 17 minutes apart but more or less same speed rating.

https://www.attackpoint.org/racesplits.jsp/race_38...
Apr 26, 2022 2:05 PM # 
Mr Wonderful:
US scores (at least mine) are falling down nicely. I've lost 20% in the last week or two. I think some recent inflation was the result of the reconnecting as the pandemic winds down. We had an instance where a good person visited us, did not have a great race, while the locals who had the venue memorized ran well, which connected us in a lopsided fashion resulting in a ~50 point runner getting a 100 pt AP ranking, which was kind of hilarious.
Apr 26, 2022 4:30 PM # 
JanetT:
Your AP ranking is general, relative to whatever else is posted on AP, and just for fun anyway (as is the entire sport for that matter).
Apr 27, 2022 3:12 AM # 
ajriley:
No fun, only run.
Apr 27, 2022 1:47 PM # 
Mr Wonderful:
Spouse: Did you have fun?
Me: Not sure, they haven't published the results yet.
Apr 27, 2022 1:58 PM # 
tRicky:
Haha, too true.

Conversely: No, I lost three minutes at the fifth control.

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