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Discussion: OK jerseys

in: Orienteer Kansas

Dec 28, 2007 10:30 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Here are three designs I've been working on. Feedback appreciated!

Click thumbnails for larger images. Leave comments if you wish. These images don't show sleeve logos, because I didn't want to go into that much detail for the sketches. Also, I didn't put the AxisGear logos on options B and C, but they'd be about in the same spot as option A. The font is the one I want to use, too.

Option A: Checkerboard

Option B: Jim Ryun Throwback

Option C: Modified Status Quo
Dec 28, 2007 11:17 PM # 
C is almost the same as what we already have, so I wouldn't buy another one. B would be my first choice. I also like having "Orienteer Kansas" spelled out somewhere on the jersey.
Dec 28, 2007 11:41 PM # 
Pink Socks:
C is purposely the same as before. Maybe people like consistency?

Obviously, my first choice is A, though it might have some rear-design tweaking.

B was hastily thrown together, and looking at it, I think it could use something else on the front, perhaps a pink/white horizontal stripe at the logo level. I'll play around with that idea.
Dec 29, 2007 1:55 AM # 
How would the checkerboard design look if the squares were tilted (more like diamonds)?
Dec 29, 2007 8:00 AM # 
Pink Socks:
When I was first thinking of design motifs, I considered both checkerboard and argyle (tiled diamond shapes). I really liked the look of exact tiling, where the square logo fits exactly within the square tiles, which is why I went with it. This pattern also goes with the verticality of the chest zipper (and horizontal of the hemline), too.

Personally, I like the look of the fully-tesselated squares better than diamonds. (Though, a full argyle jersey can look sharp: )

Plus, I like connection of the checkerboard with racing and the checkered flag. And, now that I think about it more, the checkerboard also brings to mind chess (duh), a mental workout which is apt here.

If you want, I can try to put together a diamond sketch, but don't expect anything soon, as I'm working every day through Jan 5th. If people like Option B, I can also try to incorporate a few things on the front to add to the design, too.
Dec 30, 2007 2:24 AM # 
How about option A, with the colors switched around? Perhaps a royal (or black) checkerboard, with pink on the sides or trim?
Dec 30, 2007 3:15 AM # 
Pink Socks:
Black and white chex looks too much like a real checkered flag or a chessboard. I think the dark blue/white has too much contrast. And, with a royal or black chex, the logo gets completely lost. The royal/white chex was one of my first designs, and I scrapped it right away, and Gina agreed. Also, I tried a chex without white... didn't work so well, either.

If I were to go with another color, I would go with powder blue/white chex, I guess a checkered version of Option B.

Because of the color choices of some of the panels, I'm limited to certain colors. I want all of the sleeve colors to be the same, which means that everything that's royal in Option A and C has to be either: royal, white, or black (of the colors that make sense for OK). Same with the meshy side panels (what's black in Options A and C).

Pretty much, the only things I can completely control the color on are: front and back main panels, the ringers, and the center sleeve panels. However, I want the sleeves to be the same color, so I'm kinda limited there.

The only places for pink or light blue are the main panels and ringers.

I also want to keep the colors to a minimum (max 4) for a simple design. It'll either be:

royal, powder, pink, white
black, royal, pink, white

I guess before this keeps going in circles...

1) What color scheme do we want? Do we want pink? Powder? Both? Neither?

2) Who gets to pick the colors or design? Just OK people? Just people buying jerseys? Readers of Spike's blog? Also, if non-OK people are interested in a jersey, would we sell them (there's interest already from Spike's blog)?

Dec 30, 2007 3:07 PM # 
I like your A and C designs best, Patrick. One of the nice things about having black on the top is that it is easy to get black pants and sharing a color with the top makes them look like they belong together. Many of us already have black pants and they're easier to match with other black than matching blue or pink pants with other blue or pink colors in a top. The black, royal, pink, and white color scheme would thus be my choice.

I would say that to make this choice, Patrick should come up with some designs (as he has) and we can then discuss shortly (as we're doing), then we'll see if a consensus emerges. We should sell to just OK however.
Dec 30, 2007 7:52 PM # 
Pink Socks:
Four iterations of the checkerboard color scheme. A few things to note:

** I can alter the size of the chex, too. I picked this size because it's the size of the chest OK logo. I don't want to go too small, because then, from a distance, the pattern will just look like a washed out color.

** Anything other than white in the checkerboard does not look sharp at all.

** I'm working on some options for the back of the checkerboard jersey. One would be the current. The second would be the current, but without the Orienteer Kansas strip. The third would be text from the Jim Ryun throwback, but placed on top of (not tiled with) the chex.

** I think that black pants are the way to go. However, I don't think we necessarily need to have a lot of black in the top to make it work. A lot of the cleaner WOC '06 jersey designs had black pants without much black on top. As long as we don't have a lot of dark colors on the top, it'll still look good. This is why I never once considered a darker blue (navy) for an option.

The pink here is supposed to be neon pink, not hot pink (I believe there's a difference, and KU used the neon pink). I think the pink/white chex gives a good contrast to the OK logo.

I really like this one, too. The lighter blue gives a less in-your-face chex pattern, plus contrast with the OK logo, plus another reference to Kansas (I'll see if you can figure it out). I think this color combo lends itself very well to the to the third design option (mentioned above) for the back of the jersey.

There's not a lot of black, though, but I suppose we could make the side panels black.

Obvious checkerboard here. Um, yeah... I think too much association with car racing on this one.

I don't like this one at all. No contrast for the OK logo, so it gets lost. Plus, there's too much unbroken black on this one. If I were to remove some black, I think it either gets too busy or too much blue. Plus, the pink here is pretty much only bordered by black, which is something I don't like. The pink and blue should go together. Black should be a contrast/trim color.
Dec 31, 2007 2:13 AM # 
I still prefer the Jim Ryun Throwback version ... I'm an admitted Old-Schooler and not a fan of car racing, either.
But I don't *hate* the checkerboard design. I guess I have a slight preference in those of the pink checkerboard over the light blue.
I do not think people outside of OK should have a vote in the design. If they want to buy jerseys once we decide, that's cool. But I don't like the idea of non-club members deciding what I'll wear for the Relays.
By the way, I don't have a pair of plain black o' pants ... but I do have navy, and any of these will work well with that, probably. Or white ...
Dec 31, 2007 5:44 PM # 
Pink Socks:
I'm an admitted old-schooler, too. And that's the one reason I want to keep the design as simple as possible.

However, I also wanted to create a distinct visual identity with the design, so I wanted to use a classic pattern. I thought about stripes, argyle and such, but I liked the uniqueness of the checkerboard, and especially how it fit in with our square logo.

I am also not a fan of car racing... my inspiration for the checkerboard design actually is from the Croatian soccer jerseys. But I figured that people like symbolism, so a checkerboard would mean various things, like racing, mental strategies (chess), Kansas (pattern of Dorothy's dress), etc.

If we go with this design, I don't want people to think that we just stuck a (racing) checkered flag on there because we like NASCAR.

If I were to rank my choices:
1) Pink chex
2) Powder blue chex
3) Jim Ryun throwback

I agree with Peggy... we should just limit OK in the design voting, I guess we should include the OK'ers not on Attackpoint....

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