Discussion: Well done!
in: PG; PG > 2015-04-20
Apr 21, 2015 12:03 AM
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A lot of miles in those old legs. And I suspect still a lot left. A heartfelt congratulations!
Apr 21, 2015 9:19 AM
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So impressed -- by your talent, your ideas, your motivation, and your ability to get so many of us invested in your results and happily donating to the juniors. What a win-win.
I don't think any of us are surprised by your smart race!
I don't think any of us are surprised by your smart race!
Apr 21, 2015 3:55 PM
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So that we can learn: can you give a rough idea of when/how much you walked? Given that pace, did you walk at all?
Apr 21, 2015 4:08 PM
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Way to go, Peter! Never doubted that you would do it. Amazing feat (and feet)! Under 5 hours at age 80, eh?
Apr 21, 2015 6:03 PM
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PG:
Hmm, how much did I walk?
I wish I could just go to my Garmin data but for the first time in a long time it crapped out. Not sure why, but there was moisture inside the display screen within a mile or so. Worked OK up to about 15, then kept changing to another screen on its own. At 16 I realized it was fading, took a careful note of the elapsed time, and started the stopwatch on my Timex on the other wrist. I suppose I should try to download the Garmin to see what, if anything, is there.
But virtually all the walking was after 16.
So, best as I can figure/guess/remember --
Probably 10 x 30 seconds at aid stations (stopped every 2 or 3 miles), walked to make sure I was drinking everything in the cup.
Elsewhere when I walked, I looked at my watch immediately and gave myself a certain time allotment, usually just 30 seconds, sometimes a minute, and then get running again. Very very disciplined.
On the 4 hills in Newton:
Up from Newton Lower Falls, crossing 128 -- 20 and 50 (all times are just seconds)
Up from the firehouse when you turn onto Commonwealth Ave. -- 30, 60, and 30
Up just past Newton Town Hall -- 60 and 30
Leading to Heartbreak -- 30 and 30 (my quads started to hurt about 18, at this point, 19.5-20, I started having to take walking breaks on the gentle rises)
Up Heartbreak -- 30 and 60 and 30 and 30
Up the next little rise -- 60
Two rises on the way down to Cleveland Circle -- 30 and 30
From there, roughly mile 22, to mile 24.8 (40 km) -- the routine was walk 30, though sometimes I limited it to 20, and then run as far as possible, trying to do 90, sometimes getting to 120. So in those 2.8 miles, took about 28 minutes, probably 20%+ walking, so let's say 6 minutes.
Over the bridge over the Mass Pike to 25 miles -- 60
From there to the right turn on Hereford St. -- maybe another 6 times, say 150
On Hereford St, the block rising up to Boylston -- 30
Down Boylston to the finish -- none! :-)
So that's a total of maybe 48 times for a total of 18 minutes. A pretty good guess.
Note than when I walk I walk quick as I can, no loafing. And then when I run, I run a little faster than I would if I wasn't taking these break. Which is how I could keep it at 10 minute pace. If I just tried to keep running, well, I couldn't. So this was the best option. (And I've done it many times over the years at the end of ultras, so I know the routine, physically, mentally, psychologically.)
Maybe more of an answer than you expected? :-)
I wish I could just go to my Garmin data but for the first time in a long time it crapped out. Not sure why, but there was moisture inside the display screen within a mile or so. Worked OK up to about 15, then kept changing to another screen on its own. At 16 I realized it was fading, took a careful note of the elapsed time, and started the stopwatch on my Timex on the other wrist. I suppose I should try to download the Garmin to see what, if anything, is there.
But virtually all the walking was after 16.
So, best as I can figure/guess/remember --
Probably 10 x 30 seconds at aid stations (stopped every 2 or 3 miles), walked to make sure I was drinking everything in the cup.
Elsewhere when I walked, I looked at my watch immediately and gave myself a certain time allotment, usually just 30 seconds, sometimes a minute, and then get running again. Very very disciplined.
On the 4 hills in Newton:
Up from Newton Lower Falls, crossing 128 -- 20 and 50 (all times are just seconds)
Up from the firehouse when you turn onto Commonwealth Ave. -- 30, 60, and 30
Up just past Newton Town Hall -- 60 and 30
Leading to Heartbreak -- 30 and 30 (my quads started to hurt about 18, at this point, 19.5-20, I started having to take walking breaks on the gentle rises)
Up Heartbreak -- 30 and 60 and 30 and 30
Up the next little rise -- 60
Two rises on the way down to Cleveland Circle -- 30 and 30
From there, roughly mile 22, to mile 24.8 (40 km) -- the routine was walk 30, though sometimes I limited it to 20, and then run as far as possible, trying to do 90, sometimes getting to 120. So in those 2.8 miles, took about 28 minutes, probably 20%+ walking, so let's say 6 minutes.
Over the bridge over the Mass Pike to 25 miles -- 60
From there to the right turn on Hereford St. -- maybe another 6 times, say 150
On Hereford St, the block rising up to Boylston -- 30
Down Boylston to the finish -- none! :-)
So that's a total of maybe 48 times for a total of 18 minutes. A pretty good guess.
Note than when I walk I walk quick as I can, no loafing. And then when I run, I run a little faster than I would if I wasn't taking these break. Which is how I could keep it at 10 minute pace. If I just tried to keep running, well, I couldn't. So this was the best option. (And I've done it many times over the years at the end of ultras, so I know the routine, physically, mentally, psychologically.)
Maybe more of an answer than you expected? :-)
Apr 21, 2015 7:28 PM
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Extremely educational, thanks. Although maybe not directly applicable for many of us, as we would have about as much luck utilizing (and remembering the details of) a discipline like this as we would trying to recall how many contour lines we crossed on an orienteering course.
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