Discussion: Old haunt...

Ahh, very nice - I grew up on Fairview Cresc which you ran by on the short bit of St. Paul between Seneca Park Ave (out of the park and up the hill) and Cooper Rd. We used to head down that hill and through the woods / fields to get to the river parallel to Seneca Park - perhaps my first love of getting outdoors. That area is called "The Flats" because it was flat wet land good for agriculture, and not much settlement because the sewage had to be pumped up and out of the area...

You also ran by Pinegrove - the elementary school that closed the year after I graduated, now a nature and senior center. I then continued to Dake and IHS - the cinder track we had then was replaced only about 5 years ago, but seems to have weathered badly in that short time.

While that portion may have been park land, it has never really been used by the park - perhaps most lately only when they ran the trail along the river.

The other way to go from IHS is to turn right on Pinegrove and get into Durand from the back side down Edgerton. (That's what the XC team used to do with coach Brown;-)

That was kind of my old haunt as well, except it doesn't go back to my childhood (as I didn't grow up in the Roch. area). From my late 20's to my mid 30's (which would be from the late 70's to the mid 80's), I lived on Winona Blvd about a block south of Titus. I did frequent runs on the trails of Seneca Park, sometimes coming out on "The Flats" and taking the roads back home. I always thought The Flats was kind of a neat area -- sort of a rural farming hamlet in the middle of a highly developed suburb.

My long runs back then were often doing a loop down to the Rt 104 bridge, up Lake Ave., across the Stutson St bridge, and back via Thomas and St. Paul (sometimes going down to the Flats and into Seneca Park; there was (and still is, I think) a nice access from Winona Blvd to the park, about half a block south of where I lived.

When I did the road route back, I often ran on Fairview Cres, which didn't cut off or add any significant distance, but it seemed like a nice quiet street and a nice change from St. Paul.

Too funny;-)

I know the cut on Winona that you're speaking of - we used to take our bikes down that path - it ended up at the back of the zoo by the Llamas and interesting abandoned stairways.

Yes - The only real reason to go down Fairview is because you live there. It begins and ends on St Paul and has no other access, and is a "long cut" from either direction.