Discussion: Results Posted

2010-07-17 : Western States Championships Day 1 at Saylor Park (Woodland Park, CO) : [Overall by Course and Splits by Class]

Our e-punch guru, John Crowther, will be working with Valerie Meyer to get splits uploaded to AttackPoint & WinSplits.

Splits for both days have been posted to Attackpoint, as well as to WinSplits.

Anybody know relay results?

A little birdie told me that Orienteer Kansas won one of the relays!

Go pink chex & rock chalk!

Cascade won the 12 pt race
OK won 8 pt
don't know who won 4 pt, had to leave for airport

4 pt winners were 'RMOC 1' -- JP Ingebrigtsen, Doug Berling, Troy Bozarth & Michael Rounds.

O- scores analysis using Win-splits data is here

More splits have been posted to WinSplits and here on AP.

For the US Relay Championships, you'll need to go in and claim your splits, even if you don't normally have to.

Ken got this fixed (Thank you, Ken), so you only need to claim your splits if you were using a different SI# than the one in your AP profile.

any splits from the UltraLong?

I'll be sending them to Valerie this evening.

Standing by.

I'd like to thank the organizers for a good event! I think the turnout was a bit low because people were constrained for time and/or budget after going to the US and NA championships, but those who did go were rewarded with fun maps and courses.

Thanks to Valerie, splits the Ultralong are now on Attackpoint and Winsplits as well.

Mappers are surely among the unsung heros of the sport, and to judge by the requests I still get from clubs who are having problems finding mappers to update old maps and make new maps, it would appear that mappers are in (critically?) short supply these days. It is probably the case that many people have no idea just how time demanding the effort to make a high quality map is. I suppose you could still orienteer on USGS maps or Rand McNally atlases or the wing of a butterfly or whatever, but it really wouldn't be the same.

With that in mind, it is worth pointing out that the new map over Rainbow Falls, used for the just held US Ultra-Long Championships and mapped by Plamen Djambazov, was top-notch in every way. It was a truly outstanding effort by Plamen.

The terrain on the west side of the map was considerably different form that on the east side, and the type of orienteering varied correspondingly. Both terrains were a bit different than anything that had been previously mapped in the greater Woodland Park-Lake George area, and quite different in character from Manitou Lake, just a mile or two up-valley from Rainbow Falls.

Manitou Lake is almost all contours and not much else, with so few rocks you could almost count them on one hand. Rainbow Falls, on the other hand, is quite rich in rock detail, in the form of outcropping sandstone cliffs along with sandstone boulders and hoodoos in sizes from "regular" to the very large. Runnability at Rainbow Falls was quite good--with almost no stones underfoot--provided you could cope with the big slopes on the east side.

There was also a fascinating back-story concerning the marked out-of-bounds area on the map all runners had to observe. However, given the difficulties the club had with obtaining the necessary permitting from the agency in charge of the area, it is a story best left off public forums and left to private discussions instead. Partly funny, partly ludicrous, and no doubt a source of frustration for the club. But obviously the ultra-long went forward in the end. That's in contrast to the frustrating negotiations over access to another area which the organizers had hoped to use for the weekend, and which ultimately resulted in failure to achieve an agreement.

You can look at the map and guess the survey covered at least a little more area than what was printed up for this use, and if memory serves, this map represents only a chunk of a much larger base map, so hopefully RMOC will come back to this area and there will be more to look forward to in the future.

Thanks Plamen. The map was top-notch and worth coming just for this one day. Some of those form lines looked crafted with loving, caring labor!

I would also like to commend Plamen on the Ultralong courses. The Blue turned out very well, with several critical route-choice problems on legs that didn't appear route-choicey at all after a cursory glance. The winning time was just a tad short, which is perfectly reasonable given cooler-than-average temperatures, and the physical challenge was deceiving in the beginning, got a lot more serious in the middle, and tapered off in the end—just the way it should be!

My hat is off to the RMOC organization for an outstanding week of orienteering events. Thanks to all the volunteers for the awesome effort, outstanding maps and courses.

my hat is off as well for all those that contributed to the last event. This early morning, while the family was still asleep at just 10 minutes drive from where Rainbow Falls event occurred, I took the car and parked at the same lot and went for a stroll looking for mapping features and referencing them on the map. Had alot of fun, and took some pictures as well, and will post sometime next week. My only question, and this is from a novice, so my apologies in advance, why map three boulders as they seem to be touching themselves, when in reality they are 3-5 meters apart (as for example the one-to-last control, maybe 27, in blue course).

Great events and greta job by the volunteers!

Does anyone have some links to the actual results pages they can post here? Maybe I've just become web-illiterate, but I'm not finding ultra-long, relay or nigfht results. Is there a results index someplace that I am missing?

John and Valerie have posted all results to Attackpoint and WinSplits (here and here). I got the final set of results files last night but had to report to my "real" job today... :-P I'm working on getting them posted to the RMOC site at this very moment, but I may take a break for dinner before I'm completely finished.

Sherpes - to answer your question.

People who haven't mapped much often forget that the symbol for a small boulder is 0.4 mm, and that equals a diameter of 6 meters if blown up to real life. A few boulders that are 3-5 meters apart would overlap, if drawn precisely.

When this happens, most mappers will distort the area locally to fit things in, or alternatively use a boulder cluster / boulder field symbol. But it can't be perfect in every detail. In my opinion, a lot of mappers get carried away and put boulders on the map that really don't need to be there. Maybe that's cause I've mapped terrain like this

I don't think Plamen and Sherry (the event director) frequent Attackpoint, but I've sent them both a link to this thread.

What a great event. So many terrific maps of terrific terrain, so near one another. Thanks to all the organizers and volunteers!

Second everyone on the thanks and awesome work by RMOC!

All results and splits are now posted on the RMOC web site: http://www.rmoc.org/content/view/194/129/

p.s. If anyone has an online photo gallery from the event, please send me the link. Thanks!

photos of last day at Rainbow Falls (plus some of the same location but two days later...)

http://picasaweb.google.com/114198724055821468503/...#

the Colorado Springs newspaper, The Gazette, has a online "front page" article about the orienteering event. You can see it here

I like the "munching on a post-race cheese sandwich". Was that to give a feel of the overall atmosphere? The "dense forests near Calgary" was meant to be Mount Laurie, but I don't think I can have described the challenge there to the interviewer very well (although the article also refers to "dense forest" in Colorado).
Good to see we're getting this sort of publicity though.

Looks like the link to the Gazette article may not work under IE. Only under Firefox or Safari.

yep that's what it looks like