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| # Posted 2008-08-12 18:50:14 | |
| KingTim: | Two days ago I ran a 10 mile hilly road route with my girlfriend. It took us just over 80 minutes. Usually I run this in 60. Despite being 20 minutes slower than usual, my quads are now aching, as they would if I'd run a long road race.
I am guessing that this is due to running slower than my natural cadence and my quads were worked harder while I was 'hanging' on each step for longer than usual. Is this a sound theory or can anyone offer me a better explanation? I find it bizzarre that I'm aching after that run. |
| # Posted 2008-08-12 23:25:06 | |
| boyle: | Your theory makes sense if you were braking more than normal on all your descents. |
| # Posted 2008-08-13 00:10:43 | |
| RLShadow: | Perhaps part of the explanation is that you were running for a longer period of time? Even though you were running slower, which is an easier effort, you were on your feet longer, and most likely took more steps in the 10-mile run than if you were running at a faster speed. |
| # Posted 2008-08-13 06:28:39 | |
| ebuckley: | I'm not buying it. Anybody who runs 6's regularly should have no trouble jogging 8's. Something else is up. |
| # Posted 2008-08-13 10:25:49 | |
| mikeminium: | It is a longer time on pavement than your usual... Do you generally run on pavement? I would tend to agree with Eric, though. Keep an eye open for signs of any minor infection, etc... (eg higher than normal resting heart rates, swollen glands, etc...) Probably nothing, but perhaps vitamins & a little extra rest if anything seems a bit "off". Was your sleep and diet normal? That can have a big impact too. Also hydration? |
| # Posted 2008-08-13 13:30:08 | |
| KingTim: | Cheers for replying everyone. Interesting comments.
Dick - not sure about the longer-time running suggestion; I am well-accustommed to running for over 80 minutes, but usually in terrain. Mike - I usually try to keep off pavement as much as possible, but I'm training for a half-marathon in 4 weeks so I've been working more road runs into my training recently. Good point though - I was tired from only 6 hours' sleep the previous night, and from over-eating in a restaurant. Do tiredness and diet have this effect then? I've run on that amount of sleep plenty of times and have never noticed it before. |
| # Posted 2008-08-13 18:32:10 | |
| ccsteve: | Tim, I had a look at your log, and while you had the 80 minute run at light effort Sunday, you raced 70 minutes on Saturday;-)
I'm thinking that the effect of the earlier run on your body was augmented by this light effort but long duration run the very next day. Also - I see the upward trend in your effort over the last 4 weeks, and so accumulated fatigue can be a factor there. I've been working with the "Run Less Run Faster" methodology this summer and have noticed a good effect, you might check that out. |
| # Posted 2008-08-14 13:41:08 | |
| KingTim: | Steve - well spotted. Yes I did a fairly hard O race on the Saturday, but it's not like I'm unaccustomed to that intensity of training, but you do have a point.
Tell me about this Run Less Run Faster idea. Sounds interesting. |
| # Posted 2008-08-14 19:07:38 | |
| ccsteve: | Sure - The book Run Less, Run Faster has a couple experienced authors backed by Runners World.
They took marathon runners and trained them "differently". Instead of logging miles, they concentrated on three specific running workouts each 7 days. One is sprint interval based (to increase top speed), one is pace based (to train in the speed to use for the actual event), and the last is distance based (for endurance). The times and activities for these three workouts are specific based on an individual's current state. Three other days of the week include non-running aerobic exercises. Their results show marathon runners having specific and definite improvement in an event after this training schedule. I'm not interested in a marathon, but have only 3 days a week to train, so it appeals to me. I use my mid-week sessions for speed and pace workouts, and try to get long sessions in on the weekend. (I added a "hill" workout and alternate that in - it appears marathoners don't have to climb up and down hills like we do;-) I found a copy in my local library;-) |
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