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Discussion: Allow plenty of time to get to the start on Friday

in: BAOC: U.S. Nationals (Sep 6–8 - Boulder Creek, CA, US)

Sep 5, 2019 4:57 AM # 
Details are in Bulletin #2, but just to emphasize: there is a shuttle from parking to the assembly area both days at Big Basin. The schedule is that a shuttle will leave from parking every 15 minutes (starting at Noon), and it's about a 15 minute ride. On Friday, there is then a 15 minute walk to the start, and call up is 4 minutes before your start time. So, aim for a shuttle at least an hour before your start time, if not 75 minutes. If some of you don't mind getting out there early, try to get on one of the first two shuttles - that will ease the crunch later. Of course, if you have given yourself oodles of time and someone behind you on line for the shuttle is desperate to get to their start and the shuttle you're boarding is filling up, giving your spot up to that person (if the shuttle is getting full) would be a very nice gesture.

Also, the road to the park is quite slow, so allow plenty of time for that, too.
Sep 5, 2019 2:08 PM # 
To emphasize: People will be going 18 mph on California Highway 236 between Waterman Gap and the park headquarters. There are no places to pass for 14 mi between Saratoga Gap and the headquarters. Google's estimate is correct, it will not go much faster than the software thinks.
Sep 5, 2019 3:58 PM # 
Is it possible to pick up model event maps at the shuttle bus pickup spot tomorrow morning?
Sep 5, 2019 4:12 PM # 
CA-236 looks fun.
Sep 6, 2019 2:42 AM # 
@BorisGr: my understanding is that model maps will be available at registration; registration and the shuttle bus pickup spot are both near parking, as is the Model area.
Sep 6, 2019 2:51 AM # 
CA-236: You can get to Big Basin HQ two ways on CA-236, from the north (Waterman's Gap) or from the south (Boulder Creek). The latter is by far the easier drive. Depending on where you are coming from, routing yourself through Boulder Creek, say, by taking CA-17 to Mt Hermon Rd in Scotts Valley, taking Mt Hermon to Felton, and then going N on CA-9 to Boulder Creek, is a much less intimidating route.

For the real adventurous, the quickest way is to exit CA-17 at Bear Creek Rd (about 3 miles S of Los Gatos) and take Bear Creek all the way to Boulder Creek. If you do that, you'll pass within a mile of my house ;-). However, tomorrow might not be the day for that sort of adventure. (Part of the reason it's an adventure is that some turns on Bear Creek are not well marked, and gps devices may not work on all parts of that route.)
Sep 6, 2019 3:14 AM # 
I passed within a mile of your house earlier this evening. My gps only dropped out a couple of times but not near any turns. I was intending to go to the model event but got delayed beyond its closing time by the traffic jam on CA-17. Looked like at least a 4 car pileup.
Sep 6, 2019 3:38 AM # 
Sorry about that, Mitch. Not unusual to have accidents and traffic jams on CA-17, alas.

If you happened to notice where CA-35 turned off Bear Creek Rd and onto Skyline, that's the road to my house. And also the place where people sometimes go wrong.
Sep 6, 2019 4:24 AM # 
Probably saw it but don't really recall. It was indeed a fun drive though! Felt a bit like skiing or mountain biking.

To Boris's question: the schedule says the model opens at 10 and registration/packet pickup opens at 12. Does that imply they're being staffed by different people but in the same location?
Sep 6, 2019 12:16 PM # 
Same people, I believe. I imagine they'll give out packets before 12, too.
Sep 6, 2019 1:41 PM # 
Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I'd like to do the model event around 1030-11, but am not sure I can get a model map then. In the worst case I'll use the map on my phone, so not a big deal.
Sep 6, 2019 1:55 PM # 
Model preview from o-maps here
Sep 6, 2019 2:56 PM # 
I’d say o-Maps assessment is right on, except I wouldn’t count on it being a lot less steep in the competition terrain.
Sep 6, 2019 4:48 PM # 
Ha! I walked out of my airbnb just now and found o-maps's car parked next to mine
Sep 6, 2019 5:22 PM # 

Photos from the model (sampling of controls and woods). Click the photo to see the others...just the first 8 photos of my photostream (can't make a folder from my iPad) are from the Big Basin model.

This isn't a control location, just an example of the size of some trees in the white woods. :-)
Sep 6, 2019 5:51 PM # 
Mr Wonderful:
Photos appreciated by vicarious participants!
Sep 6, 2019 6:06 PM # 
I just added a ninth, the model map itself (bad lighting)
Sep 6, 2019 6:46 PM # 
Bulletin 2:

On average, the Middle and Long course area is less steep than the Model area.


I wouldn’t count on it being a lot less steep in the competition terrain.

Looks like we can reconcile these statements by presuming that the competition terrain is just slightly less steep than the model. ;-)

fossil: Hah! We said to each other as we rolled in (after dark), there are 2 rentals here, wonder if the other has orienteers in it too? We guessed it might be upstate NYers that we chatted with at the model, who had mentioned they were staying in Boulder Creek too. Got the upstate NY part right! ;-)
Sep 6, 2019 6:48 PM # 
JanetT: Ninth pic is redundant, you already have "the model map itself (bad lighting" in the very first picture. ;-)
Sep 7, 2019 1:00 AM # 
I added the model map photo after uploading (and linking to) the others.
Sep 7, 2019 3:58 AM # 
O-Maps: exactly, I.e., slightly. ;-)
Sep 7, 2019 4:12 AM # 
DWildfogel: I took the adventure route today, not knowing that it was supposed to be an adventure, nor knowing that I was within a mile of your house- cool! P.S. It's more adventurous if you just memorize the route and don't use gps at all :)
Sep 7, 2019 4:31 AM # 

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