Discussion: Hard

Sure did look tough. Did I really want Manitoba to be somewhere I want to go?

Having orienteered in Manitoba several times, I'd say yes. This is the only MB terrain that I recall negative comments about.

It is very interesting terrain. The poison ivy is terrifying, The map is a bit over the top. Very busy, very detailed, even at 1:5000, especially at 1:7500 or 1:10000. J-J compared it to a map from when he was there four years earlier, which was much easier to read. I imagine he will post a side by side. Obviously some folks know exactly how to orienteer here. It was just way over my head. Several times I found myself standing next to a large distinctive looking feature in the terrain, completely unable to find it on the map.

The map looks kinda like raw Lidar data. At 2.5m contours, all kinds of misleading stuff might show up that wouldn't be detectable in the terrain. Do you think the map was competently field checked?

And apparently the TecNu worked well for you, possibly negating your fear of the PI.

I have full confidence that there was a thorough field survey. The mapper posted some of the base map for comparison, btw.

I think it was a remarkably thorough and accurate field survey. The resulting map, however, was much too busy for my skill level. I found it impossible to relocate, even off features that were distinctive in the terrain, but lost in the detail of the map. Now that I am sitting calmly at home, and with the advantage of having seen my gps track, I can see where they were, but I just couldn't do it at all in the terrain.

Tecnu was more effective than I had expected, but did not abate my fear or disgust at the sight of so much lush toxicodendron radicans. So far a not unexpected stripe around my L ankle, and a more surprising patch on the inside of my R elbow, perhaps a place I didn't Tecnu appropriately.