Discussion: WOC Relay

Quick copy and paste of the US relay info. Feel free to use this thread for commentary!

The Classic Relays start today!

The Men's race begins at 1 pm (6 am on the East Coast) and the Women start at 3 pm (8 am on the East Coast).

The men's order is Greg Ahlswede, Eric Bone, Giacomo Barbone. Morten decided not to race due to illness.

The women's order is Evalin Brautigam, Alison Campbell, Cristina Luis.

Go USA!

and they are off

Ugly already
for GBR and SUI

Greg ahead of Hertner through the arena passage :)

Crazy results - anything can still happen with this forking!

Our JWOC team is watching with the Swiss team. It's not often you see the Canadian and the Swiss come through the arena at the same time :)

Good run by Damian = bad run by Fabian :)

Damien in 16th, four minutes back of the leaders! And a nice run by Greg, especially in the first half of the race!

Anyone know how to get the live stream to show GPS tracking for the current leg, and not just the first leg?

There's a drop down below the GPS, pick Men-2

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CZE got all the way back to #1 - wrong map ?

Forgot to flip map?

Yep, looks like that now.

Thierry vs Magne Daehli on last leg.

France finished the second leg in a great position. Can TGIF catch the Norwegian?

It'd be an amazing career finish for Gueorgiou if he anchors France to gold in the relay.

Lithuania WERE racing out of their minds! (EDIT)

90s is a lot, but Lithuania is in trouble.

> It's not often you see the Canadian and the Swiss come through the arena at the same time :)

Probably not since 1997 when Wil Smith had a killer first leg and we ended up 15th (Smith, Graham, May, Waddington)

Commonwealth Cup:

GG storms GB into lead.

CAN, AUS, NZL all together.

TG has gained seventeen seconds against Daehli in 2.4 I'm, but that doesn't seem enough to close the remaining one minute lead by the finish.

The big question: by how much will Kempster beat Giacomo? :(

C'mon, you're living in Canada, you should be rooting for Emily. How many other men will she beat? It'll be fun to see.

TG just lost all that gain again avoiding the terrain

yup

@Hammer:

Those were the days, eh?

Emily caught 1 second on Craney over the splits so far... looks like GBR has Comm Cup tied up

While it is a pity that Emily doesn't have a women's team to run on (just like it was when Ted was his best in '85 with no Canadian men's team that year) this sure is fun watching her hold her own and also school some top men on this final leg.

Very happy for the Estonian boys! Timo spent a year in Adelaide (in high school) so we claim him as ours :)

Nice run, Emily!!

Good job by the US men, too - I think 24th is the best they have done in a while!

Woah, SWE women are crushing it...

TOVE!

Ooo ... Tove with a mistake ...

Everyone seems to be making mistakes at 4-5.

... but recovers and FIN gives it back on the next control.

Tove practices the finish shute :)

Have they said anything more about Switzerland's protest against Tove crossing the finish line during the run-through?

Is it all over? I forgot :(

I think the women are still running?

Protest was either tossed out or ignored.
Good to see they didn't have the last control in the arena. Acknowledging mistakes is beyond them, but maybe they are capable of learning?

Great run by Cristina!
Edit: probably still a great run, but I just found out she was in a mass start, so my time calculation is off

Did they protest??? Sportmanship ...

The protest was just a rumour according to worldofo twitter.

Can't imagine there would be any basis for a protest - the only thing she could be done for would be not following a marked route, but she did follow the marked route (just with a bit of an side trip on the way).

The protest was announced on the live stream, so if it was a rumour they got wind of it pretty quickly after the finish (within 10mins I'd say).

Apparently there's a rule that once you cross the finish line that's the end of your race, you can't go back out. She crossed the line, went back and then round the final loop, before crossing again to finish the race.

What's this about a protest, would someone like to give us background? Some hours after the racing and the official website only has news about the men, as far as I can see. Maybe they are still in the protest room:-) (I'm not a fb-er or a twitterer.)

Any official who would interpret this as a violation of that rule is a pedantic idiot.

The speculation on the Swedish version of AP is something similar to this from 2003: https://www.o-l.ch/olwm2003/static/page.php%3Fid=1...

That seems eminently sensible; clearly neither Tove nor the Swedes gained any advantage.

In any case, even if there were a technical violation of the rule against re-entering the competition area after crossing the finish line, the rules say only that a competitor who breaks a rule "may" be disqualified, so it would be perfectly open to a jury to find that there was a technical breach but take no action.

Incidentally, that particular rule has been broken by the first and second-leg runners of just about every WOC medal-winning relay team (except those involved in last-leg sprint finishes) in living memory.

It does remind me a bit of the flurry of protests and counter-protests between Finland and Russia at the 2006 MTBO WOC, but at least you can say that those two countries have a certain amount of history :-).

Assuming the protest actually happened, I hope the organisers found something worthwhile to do with their 50 euros.

(Update: I've since heard via a relevant IOF official that a protest form was collected but not lodged).

Looking at the men's relay results it looks like a mistake has been made - the placings of the last-leg runners have been changed (which is why Ruairi Short is listed with 33 minutes and a leg placing of 29th, when he presumably actually did 47, something consistent with the splits), but the team total times and placings have not been adjusted for the mass start - including ranking mass-start teams after the others.

Assuming the mass start took place at 105 minutes (is someone able to confirm this, or otherwise?), I think the correct order should be 27 ISR, 28 TUR, 29 JPN, 30 IRL, 31 POR, 32 BRA, 33 HKG, 34 CHN. I'll follow up with IOF.

Womens did start at 105 mins, so I assume the men did as well

My assessment from live results and gps yesterday was it started at approximately 105mins as well. Not a thorough assessment though.

As much as I would like to have been 33, yes I really was 47. There didn't seem to be any checks or anything about who was in the mass start.
I can confirm that we started at 13:45, which was 105 mins.

Relay Leg 3
http://www.tulospalvelu.fi/gps/

Looks like the women's times are also wrong (assuming that Cristina's time was the 70 she said on her log and not the 36 it says in the results), but this doesn't look like it changes any placings.

Funny that in the previous two WOCs we've hard organisers unable to print maps and collate results. Pretty simple stuff.

Or, far as I can see update a website. Could be my cache, but "see all news" finishes with an item about the mens relay - nothing about the women. And where are the official results? I can only see a link to the live centre, which says: "note that results on this page are not official." Perhaps where the internet cable goes through the Bermuda triangle something has been snagged by those foiling catamarans.

The official results are (or should be) on IOF Eventor. I've got a response from the IOF office to the effect that the people responsible for timekeeping are looking at it.

I see some news about the womens relay on the website today. Nice. But the map links are still inactive. I guess they want the grass to spring up again, they don't want people out there.

(My comments suppose that its not my browser at fault - anyone like to comment?)