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Discussion: Post Event Replay

in: Orienteering; General

Mar 15, 2017 10:31 AM # 
gruver:
I see that Australia links to Livelox from its Events calendar. Does this represent a conscious decision to move from Route Gadget? Is it better than Quickroute? Do more participants log their routes?
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Mar 15, 2017 11:17 AM # 
undy:
I suspect that the Eventor author stuck the link functionality in there, being one and the same as the Livelox author. The OA pres didn't seem 100% sure on who was paying (unless I eavesdropped incorrectly).

I'm not 100% sure that the subscription model is being enforced yet for Australian events.
Mar 15, 2017 11:22 AM # 
tRicky:
We used it recently when one of our setters uploaded the map for an urban scatter event. I tried it previously when one of your fellow Kiwis asked me to after the MTBO champs last year but it wouldn't let me upload the map.
Mar 15, 2017 11:28 AM # 
gordhun:
We are using Livelox quite extensively in Florida. Essentially it is a poor man's live GPS tracking by using the GPS function standard in smartphones and an easily downloadable Livelox app. In that it is proving useful for the orgnizers. Many of our participants are high school students with little orienteering experience. It is not unusual to have to summon a team leader to phone a student to get him or her back on the map.
Is it better than Quickroute or Route Gadget? In my view nothing is better than having the orienteer manually enter the route he/she thinks was run. But putting that old-fashioned view aside Livelox does give a comparable replay view to Route Gadget. Routes can be added after the fact.
I'm not a big fan of the fact that we are now prisoner of an annual subscription to view those mass replays. But the developers have put a lot of work in to this system and have a right to reap a reward.
A FLO member Blaik Mathews has created a series of instructional videos for Florida orienteers to use Livelox.
Mar 15, 2017 11:30 AM # 
Mr Wonderful:
We screwed around with LiveLox during the free days last fall. It was fun to set up a training, have your friend text you before their start, and watch them bomb around the woods live. Our Livelox participation rates at regular events exceeded that of the events for which we did routegadgets back when we did routegadgets.

We are considering paying for a subscription for members that would like to participate as a member benefit, as we don't really have any benefits for club membership other than discounted entry fees at this time - no more newsletters mailed and sent or anything. I voted yes for LiveLox-as-benefit in part because it would be great fodder (and a super handy tool) for doing route choice comparison posts on our Facebook page, which our fans enjoy.
Mar 16, 2017 1:28 AM # 
gruver:
Thanks. It seems (a) Livelox has a real-time functionality and (b) there is a cost presumably at the organisational level. I'm perplexed by the low participation rates in post event analysis and welcome more comment on that. Mr Wonderful reports high interest. The Pittwater Dunes 3-day in Australia seems to have pretty low interest.
Mar 16, 2017 1:47 PM # 
tRicky:
It'll really only get interest from the people who already used RouteGadget or similar, being the only ones who a) have a GPS; and b) are interested enough to upload it. A new program isn't automatically going to generate interest.
Mar 16, 2017 2:28 PM # 
Mr Wonderful:
I'd say "higher" rather than "high".

Our interested parties included those who haven't heard of routegadget, since the app doesn't require a gps watch, just run the app, which is easy enough at an event, just a few clicks. Upload from watch is easy enough as well.

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