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Discussion: Where are results going to be posted?

in: 2015 Canadian Orienteering Championships (Aug 14–23, 2015 - Hillsborough, NB, CA)

Aug 16, 2015 5:14 PM # 
Where will the various results be posted on the Event Page?
Aug 16, 2015 5:41 PM # 
Looks like Dman won gold in M21?
Aug 16, 2015 6:12 PM # 
Where did you see that Nev?
Aug 16, 2015 6:13 PM # 
He did, by a fair margin
Aug 16, 2015 6:14 PM # 
Where are the results Patrick?
Aug 16, 2015 6:20 PM # 
They were taped up near the finish line :)
Aug 16, 2015 6:23 PM # 
Lol...well give us some more details then!!
Aug 16, 2015 6:29 PM # 
I can't remember much. DGL took M/W 14s and 16s Canadian titles, though some of them were won overall by Yanks. Leif took M20, Pia took W20 with a faster time on the course than Tori who won W21.
It was also pretty hot.
Very fun, tricky area.
Aug 16, 2015 6:30 PM # 
Aug 16, 2015 6:31 PM # 
Keep the updates. There doesn't seem to be a results link on the COC website.
Aug 16, 2015 6:49 PM # 
A little bird told me DMan won....
Aug 16, 2015 6:57 PM # 
DMan was 36 minutes, Ethan was 10 minutes back in second. Outstanding run by DMan.

The results will (of course) be on the COC website - I trust later tonight if I have anything to do with it ;-) But no, there was no live results.

Pretty cool to have some of the WOC 2015 timing team helping at the start.

I'll try to get the maps up too so you can all see the fantastic terrain that is the "Pits of Despair"
Aug 16, 2015 7:21 PM # 
Thanks Adrian!!
Aug 16, 2015 7:36 PM # 
Okay - the maps are uploaded. (I pray that I didn't upload the Long courses ;-)

(I don't know - there's something funky on the way they scroll on my computer - might be best to "download" rather than just click on the link)
Aug 16, 2015 7:47 PM # 
Nice looking map and courses! Congrats Dman!
Aug 16, 2015 8:01 PM # 
Wow...very cool map! Awesome courses too!
Aug 16, 2015 8:26 PM # 
You can see the results on the Canadian Orienteering Championships Facebook page
Aug 16, 2015 9:10 PM # 
Aug 16, 2015 9:42 PM # 
Thanks Ian. Harder to do the link on my smartphone.
Aug 16, 2015 11:50 PM # 
Happy to help.
Aug 17, 2015 1:29 AM # 
Splits on AttackPoint
Aug 17, 2015 3:06 AM # 
Anyone know if Dman's win was the largest margin of victory ever in a Middle at Can Champs?
Aug 17, 2015 1:35 PM # 
WRE Ranking points
Aug 17, 2015 1:41 PM # 
I do know that the times were much longer than expected by the course planners (and especially by me). Generally about 10 minutes too long - give or take. I think this is due to a couple of reasons. One reason for sure would be the heat, which when combined with the physical and technical difficulty of the map caused people to get tired very quickly.

One issue that came up was water on the course. While it is true that according to the rules no water was required, the course planning team did take the point that it would have made a better experience and race if there was water on the course. Especially since it would have been relatively simple to put some at the spectator control.

Impressive performances all around though - in terrain that demanded heroic concentration and conditions that made that difficult to attain.
Aug 17, 2015 3:13 PM # 
Now that I've finally seen the map, I am sorry to have not made the trip.

I couldn't quite justify it, with IMHO, an awkward schedule for non-Canadians (e.g., stretched out over two weekends, but not a critical mass during the week, and only one real race on the weekends, particularly something else besides the middle to justify a long trip.)

Anyway... this looks like the NA middle of the year, for sure. Great running by DMAN, and looks like very good course planning (on a piece of terrain that would have supported another superb middle...)
Aug 17, 2015 3:46 PM # 
Noticed that Carol (Ross & Walker) has two different IOF ID:s in the World Rankings. Should be merged I guess...
Aug 17, 2015 4:30 PM # 
WRE Ranking points .... Shouldn't the juniors (M17-20 and W17-20) get points too? They were on the same courses as the seniors (M21-34 and W21-34).

[I know this issue has come up before, but I'm not sure what the outcome has been in the past.]
Aug 17, 2015 11:48 PM # 
Nice one bmay - way to bring up that touchy topic ;-) Okay ... here's the story (and it's a fairly long one)

Up to last year: everyone running the WRE courses got WRE points. This was in the WRE Guidelines but importantly not in the IOF rules.

Last year: Foot O Commission asked IOF Council (or General Assembly or some decision making body) to change the rules to match the common practice and the WRE Guidelines. Perhaps surprisingly the decision goes the other way, and FOC is told to change the Guidelines so that only M/W21E score WRE points.

Then: New IOF Guidelines are published with specific instructions about the "new" way of scoring points. The COC Event Advisor (me) reluctantly tells the organizers to report only those M/W21E results.

And then: A number of people (? federations too?) lobby the IOF that they preferred the rules the previous way. IOF agree to re-visit decision.

In the meantime: We live by the rule and only M/W21E score points at COCs this year.

Last week: IOF revisits decision and says that in future M/W21, M/W20, M/W18 (or something like that) (but not the older age classes) will score points if they run on the WRE course (though there are some stipulations about start draw (which personally I think are not in the best interest of the sport - but that's another discussion ;-))

So - I hope that clears it up. Nice to see that the IOF can be flexible. I must say I think they handled it very well, and I was very impressed with the calm leadership of Tom H. in all of this.
Aug 18, 2015 12:11 AM # 
Ha, my bad. I never dealt with that but I probably should.
Aug 18, 2015 5:07 AM # 
Thanks AZ (and sorry I asked :-).
Aug 19, 2015 12:56 PM # 
So why just "in the future"? If the IOF decided their exclusionary decision was incorrect, why can't the COC Middle score points for M/W17-20?
Aug 19, 2015 2:45 PM # 
Speaking of juniors... While there weren't many juniors in the middle distance champs this year (all time low?) it was great to see Pia Blake have the fastest time on the elite women's course in the middle. She won W20 and it would be great to see Orienteering Canada change their policy and allow W/M 20 athletes to be eligible in the open elite women's and men's category as well. Pia's brother, Leif, in M20 also (I believe) would have got a medal in the elite men's category too (Silver I believe). Given the low participation numbers in the junior ranks we should be encouraging them at all opportunities. Providing WRE points and making them eligible to contend for medals in the open elite category when running the same course are easy ways to demonstrate inclusiveness (and respect).

I counted a total of only 39 Canadian juniors spread out over the 8 junior categories. Of those 39 roughly half are from just two (Ontario) clubs - DontGetLost (11) and Ottawa OC (8). Similarly of the 21 medals awarded to Canadians most went to just those two clubs - DGL (9), OOC (3). DGL and OOC are the clubs closest to this year's races that have active junior programs though it is still a 2 day drive for DGL. Adding in UKR 's 2 medals and Ontario clubs took 2/3rds of the medals. Orienteering Ontario has been very supportive of the efforts that various clubs have taken to expand junior participation at the club level. I encourage more provinces to develop club junior programs and for us collectively to figure out how we can get more juniors to large races like our national champs.
Aug 19, 2015 3:18 PM # 
It would be nice to see everyone get WRE points since there is such a low participation in the W/M21E categories this year. It would give everyone more points for each race which would be nice.

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