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Discussion: Linking from splits page to individual log entry

in: Orienteering; The Website

Jan 20, 2015 11:41 PM # 
Usually a race organizer loads splits to attackpoint, the is a link for each person who has made a log entry for that race to their log for that day. However, sometimes this link doesn't appear (I'm not sure under what criteria this happens - it may be if the log entry is made after the splits are uploaded? - but it's happened to me twice in the last couple of months).

Is there any way you can create a link to your log entry from the splits page if one isn't created automatically?
Jan 20, 2015 11:51 PM # 
The time of the activity needs to match (or within a few seconds) for a link from the splits page to be created.

Start/stop your watch properly at the start/finish or edit you time if you upload the activity log from your gps to the total SI recorded time.
Jan 21, 2015 1:06 AM # 
Leeway is about 5s either side, from memory.
Jan 21, 2015 3:01 AM # 
Right, so for example you just need to edit your log entry from Saturday to change the total time to 1:47:55, or even just 1:47:51.

In this case it didn't help that one of the finish boxes seemed to be out of sync, and added 5 sec to everyone who used it.
Jan 21, 2015 3:04 AM # 
So the lesson for the day is - sync all the boxes!
Jan 21, 2015 1:46 PM # 
Thanks everyone - changing the time in my log entry created the link.
Jan 22, 2015 12:30 AM # 
I find this SI Time Master is essential for big events. In "Time Master" mode, it syncs the time only, but in "Extended Master" mode, it syncs the time and clears the backup memory.

We tend to reuse the clear-check-start-finish stations each day at large events, so after I read whatever stations I need, I use this to sync the clocks and clear the backup memory so all punches (of the check station in the start corridor for example) are only from people who actually started.
Jan 22, 2015 1:53 AM # 
You sync my battleship.
Jan 22, 2015 8:50 PM # 
in "Extended Master" mode, it syncs the time and clears the backup memory.

It also resets the "Stay awake" time to that of the SI Master, which can cause problems if that is set to some low value.

To clear check boxes, you can simply use a "Clear Backup" SI card.
Jan 22, 2015 10:58 PM # 
Hawkeye, thank you! Still learning something new after all these years. You have solved a niggling issue that I have had for some time...why the controls I continually time master for local events keep ending up with a 10 minute working time, instead of the 2 hours which I programmed them to be. I would notice it but figured it didn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, and I would be easily sidetracked before I investigatd further.

Never knew that the extended time master also reset the working (active) time. This is so good to know since it also means that I have been switching the Finish controls to 10 minutes as well at National events.

So, while I make sure all admin controls are synced, all controls end up with only 10 minutes of active time. Ok at local events maybe, but not for the Finish at Nat'l events. Oops.
Jan 23, 2015 3:03 AM # 
... or all the controls in a sprint event that were woken up half an hour before the race only to go back to sleep 15 minutes later (belated apology to the early starters at the 2012 Aus sprint champs).
Jan 23, 2015 3:49 PM # 
Is there a way to change the set value for the "stay awake" time in the extended master mode?
Jan 23, 2015 4:23 PM # 
It will copy the settings from the master, so program the master to whatever you want.
Jan 23, 2015 4:40 PM # 
I had always set the master for a short time since it didn't need to stay on after I synced the controls. Now, I will program it to the longer time and turn it off with the Off stick, if I want to save battery.
Jan 23, 2015 4:56 PM # 
I think it also copies the settings for extended mode, SI6 192 controls, and sprint timing resolution, but I've never actually checked.
Jan 26, 2015 7:46 PM # 
After recommending the SI Time Master last week, I failed to use it before a local event, thinking, "Oh, it'll be fine." Well, it bit me pretty hard. I did sync the clear, check, start, and finish units, which I don't think hurt anything. I know all the units were last synced on New Year's Day. I had to manually fix about 45 splits.

One unit that had condensation inside was 52 seconds off---I think the humidity detuned the clock or something. Another was off 18 seconds, which doesn't sound like much except two people ran the leg in 17 seconds, resulting in a -1 second split. This one is a higher number we don't use often, so I'd guess it wasn't synced on January 1st.

Always sync:
1. For big events
2. When you have courses with short, fast legs
3. When it's been awhile since the units were last synced.
Jan 26, 2015 7:51 PM # 
Another note. I last updated the Time Master when the time changed in the fall. It is now off enough to affect the positioning of uploaded splits when people upload their GPS to Attackpoint.

I'll probably start syncing the SI Time Master to a GPS clock about once a month, when I'm running the computer at an event. Or at least checking the time and syncing when necessary.

If it's not one thing, it's another.
Jan 26, 2015 9:21 PM # 
I think it also copies the settings for extended mode, SI6 192 controls, and sprint timing resolution, but I've never actually checked.

Tested this, and it does not transfer the extended mode, or any of the other items with check boxes in SI-config.
Jan 26, 2015 10:07 PM # 
@cedarcreek NetTime is my new favourite tool for syncing Windows before syncing SI units - I used to use Atomic Clock, but NetTime is even easier to use and gives better feedback.

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